pokemondo 9 years ago #5. This is very strange. 1. But Azura's Star tends to get (petty), no matter what. Since either can only hold one soul, how useful they are can be attributed to what they can reasonably replace, and here is where what you're doing with the Souls becomes important. It functions as a unique, reusable Soul Gem which is not consumed when used for enchanting or for recharging enchanted items. However, a caveat is that both these items can only ever hold a single soul at a time, and therein lies the heart of the argument. There are a lot of places where this can occur, but with the exception of the Civil War, the latter half of the Companion's questline and the Dark Brotherhood Questline, you will not find any reasonable number of opportunities to take a life that necessitate such an item. I have chosen the purified Azura's Star, mainly because I like Azura and I'd feel bad to betray her. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. The black star and Asura star? (Not Black Star, It's good as it is.) A subreddit dedicated to the Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim. Here, though, I will present why Azura's Star shines. I usually go for the black star and can easily fully charge my enchanted weapons before it depletes of charges. I expected tantrums and threats, but that's it. Why? I'd say it depends which stage of the game you are at. You will not, however, gain Aranea as a follower. The only remaining worshipper at the Shrine, the mage Aranea Ienith, will claim that your arrival was expected, as Azura her… While Nelacar claims the Black Star can house only black souls, or human souls, it can actually hold black as well as white souls, as with Black Soul Gems. Black star is better, but I've always went Azura's star because she is my favorite Daedric prince. Well, as long as you don't have the unofficial patch installed which "fixes" it. Additionally, an encounter with the wandering Dunmer Faldrus will point you in the same direction, so make your way to the shrine; it is located in the snowy mountains south of Winterhold. You kill people EVERYWHERE. Black star is the best. Azura's Star is another matter entirely. I believe you can use the grand soul charge for enchanting items, too. 1. share. When you are in the later stages you will have so many Grand Soul gems the benefit of having an infinite one is pretty negligible. Nice to have, since the abundance of Forsworn and Bandits make recharging fairly simple. A subreddit dedicated to the Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim. The Black Star is useful when you are clearing a bandit camp, murdering people, or fighting in the civil war. Many years ago, Malyn Varen was exiled from the College of Winterhold for pursuing questionable research with soul gems. If I ever end up waiting until level 20+, I am no longer able to complete this quest without cheating until like level 40. keeping that in mind, what are the key differences between the various Souls we can capture in the game? Black Soul Gems are Also the heaviest individually, however if you carried soul gems of each type in equal numbers, you would soon see that the weight of all the other gems you'd be carrying would easily outweigh the black ones, and that's before we address what the others are more useful for. However, a Black Soul Gem is required to capture sentient souls. But apart from the upset priestess, we get nothing. This will start the quest The Black Star. Azura's Star is capable of doing the same, except it can Trap any souls BUT Black ones, so if it can't be trapped by the Black Star, Azura's Star can hold it. Anything Greater or lower, all the way down to Petty, can only be found on the various "non-human" races in the game, like animals or again, Draugr and Falmer. Azura's Star is the reward for the quest received at the Shrine of Azura. Craft Azuras Star, The Black Star, and Grand Soul Gems (filled) at any forge. Because **** you is why. Malyn was trying to find a way to prolong his spirit, and he believed that storing his soul inside the Daedric artifact, Azura's Star, would prevent him from dying. Well, The Black Star is capable of trapping an infinite amount of Black Souls, which are found in Humans, Elves and Orcs, but nowhere else. It's basically a Soul Gem that will never break or be destroyed. The Black Star is supposed to only accept human souls, which are always Grand-level. Do you still think the Black Star is better? So, considering all that, what are your thoughts? Press J to jump to the feed. User Info: CrazyMammoth. Open your quest panel for details: The Black Star Aranea, a priestess of Azura, says I am destined to find "an elven man, who can turn the brightest star as black as night". Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Since all of these places can reasonably grant you a Grand Soul opportunity by the end of the experience for your troubles, using Azura's Star effectively becomes the same as using the Black Star, only you're carrying less gems, your weapons are constantly being filled with Souls and you are getting more experience in Enchanting, something that shouldn't be overlooked at all. Making it able to "combine" smaller souls into grand ones would be really nice, but it'd take some scripting to make it work. Is there anything else? Azura's Star is a Daedric Artifact awarded to you by Azura if you purify her broken star by returning it to Azura's Shrine as part of The Black Star quest. Back to top #5 acidzebra Posted 06 December 2012 - 11:56 AM. Unfortunately for him, one of the properties of the Star was that black souls—the souls of sapient, mortal beings—could not enter it. It can hold any creature's soul, up to and including those of Grand level. I'd like to know more about this too. . Black star is guaranteed to give you grand nearly every time you fight a human. Discover the next big thing in gaming @ https://goo.gl/wDDb7Vskyrim how to use Azura's star The black star Don't forget to subscribe!!! Azura's Star is a Daedric Artifact from the Daedric God Azura. Soul trapping black souls (NPCs) into the white version of Azura's Star has been mentioned as being impossible by in game dialogue, printed in game information sources, and all known lore from the TES series as well as published game guides. If you wanted to be efficient, buying Black Soul Gems to Supplement your Black Star renders the Black Star redundant, since it can't actually replace the need for Black Soul Gems. Every time you kill something or someone with your soul trap weapon and it fills the Star, turn around and use the star to refill the weapon. I've always gone Black star, easy way to build up enchanting. If both Azura's star & Black star can hold a grand soul then what's the difference between the 2? Though RP wise going for the black star means you are foolhardy enough to think pissing off Azura is a good idea and are ok with using it to trap black souls (damning people to the Soul Cairn) which is pretty nasty. Grand and Black Souls can be used to recharge weapons, but are more than likely to be used for creating your own enchanted items, like weapons or apparel. Grand Gems, as discussed, are equivalent to Black Souls in terms of Enchanting, but Greater and lower are much more useful (and cost effective) at furling enchantments on Weapons and Staffs. After testing, it seems to only be Grand Souls that the Black Star can Trap, although it CAN Trap those Grand souls from any source. Black soul gems are still pretty rare even in the late game so having a refillable one is quite handy. 6 months ago. Are you interested in Aranea as a follower at some point? I guess if it made you feel better you could always just trap the souls of conjurers, black mages, and the like. Black stars will only capture humanoid souls with a charge of Grand soul gems. The Black Star allows Black Souls. Giving the Star to Nelacar will lead you to the Black Star, which should, according to the lore, only be able to contain the black souls of sapient beings. Next, let's talk about how often you encounter times when either Star is useful. She believes he is in Winterhold. There are a lot of places where this can occur, but with the exception of the Civil War, the latter half of the Companion's questline and the Dark Brotherhood Questline, you will not find any reasonable number of opportunities to take a life that necessitate such an item. Another advantage the Black Star has is the ability to enchant weapons with the souls of annoying NPC's you kill (obviously you can do this with a normal Black soul Gem, but as I said above these seem to be pretty rare even late game), New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. If you want to use the Star to create the most powerful enchantments you can, then you are better off enchanting everything you have at once, reducing the need for enchanting potions (and time or money). But there is a possibility to make a The Black star out of it, spoiling daedric artifact of Azura. However! Azura's Star accepts all other souls, with their varying levels. Let's discuss this! If you bring it to Azura, you will be able to use it to trap any size soul except for "black" souls, or souls from other humans. - posted in Skyrim Spoilers: Does anyone else feel like the final portion of the Black Star quest is just totally fubar? 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