Both combinations offer a good contrast, but similar modulus. Before you buy the West System check out the different hardeners on line. Can any of these glues be used to fill in cracks in PT decking? Do you have any numbers on bond strength? Titebond began as a wood glue brand. I use it any time I have a more complex glue-up. I’d like to roll on the glue to each surface so I’d need a bit of setup time. Wow this is alot of discussion around glue…I love every word of it! Lastly, the biggest issue I have with the PVA’s is repair. I prefer titebond II over original for one reason, finger cleanup. I had a lot of issues with titebond as the working time is way too short for a newby like me. Of course it rained the next day. Reason 3 is that TB 2 and TB 3 have a reputation of creeping under sustained strain. A typical steel-string guitar has 150 to 170 pounds of tension on the strings — 24 hours a day, 365 days a year, for decades. Titebond offers the right mix of products and technical advice to help homeowners, hobbyists and DIYers of all skill levels achieve the best results possible. Then when they brought out Type III, the Type II was downgraded to not being suitable for structural use. I never knew the differences until now. In SoCal we don’t have humidity swings as in some locations. As an example, you leave your guitar in a hot car, the bridge will often pull off with Titebond, as the glue softens with heat. Liquid Hide Glue (12-Pack) Model# 5013 $ 37 80 /case $ 37 80 /case Free delivery. I worked in a cabinet shop for years and that was the only glue we used. I plan on using both hardwoods and softer woods in the different paddle layouts, but am now wondering what I should use as a fully waterproof adhesive? $19.99 $ 19. I think that they last a little longer that way. TiteBond II can see moderate exposure to moisture, but will “let go” if prolonged exposure is encountered. One thing for the hobbyist to keep in mind is expiration dates. Most of our yellow and white glues, including Titebond Original and Titebond II, remain usable beyond two years. So I bought PVC pickets, treated posts and rails. If the joint is a good fit, any of the usual suspects will do, as with sufficient clamping pressure, you should be able to bring the glue lines closed. Don’t use Titebond if it’s cold in your shop. Wood glue would not be a good option. You could pass for twins ! If you pass that time it will create a dry layer on top. A good finish will help slow down seasonal movement and that should put less stress on the joints. As an aside, luthiers tend to prefer Titebond 1 because it more easily allows you to do future repairs, as the glue will release with the application of heat and moisture. If a previously glued joint comes loose, PVA glue does not bond effectively because the pores are clogged, which makes for a weak joint. Heat the Titebond glue holding a joint together to remove it. To disassemble an instrument put together with Titebond original, simply add heat, like that from an iron. My instincts are to use Titebond III due to the probability of moisture exposure and it’s friendliness to indirect food exposure, besides I use it for all my cutting boards. Resorcinol isn’t very easy to work with, being mix and temperature sensitive, during the mix and cure. However what little information I could get he claimed that you do not need to heat it up unless it’s below 20°C in the shop, he also said that it’s not pure hide but that it’s synthetic, however it works the same as real hide glue in regards to reversibility and so forth. When I visited Highland Hardware last month I picked up several things I wanted to test out and one of them was a bottle of the Titebond Liquid Hide Wood Glue from Titebond. Titebond Liquid Hide Glue is the first hide glue to be offered in a liquid, ready-to-use form. Thank you for making this possible. Btw titebond liquid hide isn’t a true hide glue but synthetic, only OBG uses high quality hide glue. Titebond Original is for interior use only, Titebond II is water-resistant, and Titebond III is waterproof (well, technically its MORE water-resistant). Firstly, it will release on heat. Reply. I have only used TB 2 on any of my projects. If you’re going to test that, I look forward to reading your results. I think we are in a climate that represents the best case scenario for indoor furniture. Honestly the other factors are probably much more important to us: open time, color, water resistance. Also the Marinepoxy from Bateau.com is quite good as well. Titebond is known for the best in construction adhesives, flooring adhesives, caulks and sealants, as well as the industry's most renowned line of woodworking glues. I’ve used it for years and never had problems. Even though glue joints can be as strong as the wood, for outdoor applications gluing AND screwing is often the best way to go. Yes, I did follow the instructions and squeeze air out before capping. I now keep all adhesives inside, but is cold that detrimental to all glues? In a basement shop, I usually stock Titebond I. (and if not, then is an epoxy glue a good candidate). I recently had someone give me crap for using TB III on a project when all I needed was Titebond Orginal. It is cheaper and is good down to 50 degrees as opposed to Titebond II which is good down to 55. I have a LOT of gluing at once for a special project. The break was crisply clean with no trace of fractured wood on either of the parts. I just built a cedar grill table for my green egg smoker, was quite proud of myself until I realized that all the joints are done with tight bond 1. Dap Resorcicnol Glue has been discontinued by the manufacturer. Titebond II @ 150F Strength 1750 psi Wood failure rate 6%, Titebond III Strength 4000 psi Wood failure rate 57% Compare. Your explanation on violins came at the right time too, as my project pipeline features the repair of a damaged 1904 German copy of an Amati violin. Now Tom Fidgen from unplugged reckons that old brown glue is the go as I have read in his latest book, he swears by it. But in my opinion, there are only a few factors that really make a difference to the average woodworker. Got plenty of deck screws in there too, but the thing was rock solid with glue before I added the screws. I had that experience the first time I used Gorilla glue. The bench holds up 50 or 60 pounds of dirt in pots, so not highly loaded, but some very slight joint movement can be seen, since I made it. I STICK with TBII since it can be used indoors or out. I would even be happy to write up a series on woodworking adhesive types, their strengths and weaknesses, as well as how to make the best selection for a project. This is why you see lots of spruce employed. One thing I can also add… Titebond III does NOT wash out of T-shirts… B-). Small caliber, all lead, probably a 22. Perhaps the shelf life is less than we know or the atmosphere you live in. You can contact us here. … I really do appreciate it. Sometime when you have the opportunity, experiment with hide glue. My next tests will be with veneers using both the veneer hammer and veneering using bag press methods. TiteBond products, depend on what you’re going to use it on, basically the eventual environment it’ll live in. I’m not a big fan of Gorilla glue because of the foaming — you have to keep wiping it for about half an hour — but it does have it’s uses. When repairing something like loose chair spreaders and spindles, it works well. Titebond Liquid Hide Glue, 8-Ounces #5013 4.6 out of 5 stars 763. I wanted to add something about strength, and the details about why the wood around any good joint will probably fail before the glue lets go. So when comparing fencing material, the low end was pine, while the high end was using PVC. Wow, Paul. If you saw it you’d agree and I also like that it’s clear and blends in with the stain. Is it humid or wet and damp? the titabond is easy to use,and since I’m screwing everything together,the slow set up time isn’t a factor,but I made a wrong cut and had to take a bracing board out a couple days later,and it actually pulled the wood fibers out. Have a snug fit. I remember the first time I saw animal hide glue drip and run from a joint my dad made. Am I breaking any cardinal rules of woodworking if I try mixing both soft/hard woods together in the same paddle layup (whether in the handle shaft and/or in the paddle blades) or am I inviting future cracking issues if I attempt this, due to the different inherent characteristics of these materials (such as density, dryness, etc?) I’m an idiot with glue-up and like more open time. As with any adhesive, Titebond liquid hide glue must stand the test of time and that may take a few more years Hide glue has been around for millennia. Bye from Italy! My goal is more about strength in the dry area I live in and not as much about the concerns of the mess of guerrilla glue if that is a choice. I read through your blog and was amazed as you look exactly like a friend who lives Victoria, BC, Canada ! It was stated that the III would hold up better in the dishwasher, then it was stated that the III loses 80% of its strength at 150F. The parting was clean, clean,clean and had equal glue to both surfaces, which showed that it was the glue itself that split under shock-splitting pressure. Too many factors for me to say for certain. Titebond II Dark Wood Glue. I typically use it when repairing vintage furniture or if there won’t be a lot of stress on the joint/join. As with instruments when you need to split the line to take the fingerboard off a violins for instance. I’m guessing it is legal coverage. Try that with yellow glue. You know where to find me if you’re interested. The few bucks difference in price is not an issue with me. The only glue you should use on a violin is hide glue. Titebond or hide glue? OK, semi newby here, and I’m hoping you can help me make a wise/informed decision! If it’s due to milling issues or technique, it doesn’t matter what glue you use. Bought it because of the waterproof rating, but for outdoor use Titebond II would have been sufficient? Though to be fair, I too have had a few problems using TB3 to glue up end grain, having it leave dark spots. Both have similar physical attributes of the major industry players, but at half the price. Is there any real significant difference between Titebond Original, II, and III wood glues? The other choice is resorcinal glue if you don’t need gap-filling ability. Well all I can hope for now is that it holds indefiniteley atleast for the next 100 years or so and let the next poor chap deal with it. Thanks very much. TiteBond III does pass the type 1 WBP test, but just barely. Requires no mixing, heating or stirring. TiteBond doesn’t recommend it’s use in structural applications, so if you have some roof beams to glue, use something else (like polyurethane or epoxy, for example). Everyone has this question at one point or another. Especially the use of TB111 in darker color wood projects as I am currently working on a project using some black walnut. Some of the advantages I speak of can indeed be applied to furniture and antique repair too. Trying to glue 3″ X 12″ X 8′ red cedar planks together to make an outdoor dining table. Titebond III is expected to last beyond its stated shelf life. To: “The Lonely Guy Out There Reading Down This Thread Getting All Worked Up About Glue”. 03-27-2017 10:23 AM. These stats are from Titebond’s physical properties page for each product. Glues Used In Guitar Repair. The stuff is very pricey and I had never used it before. i.e. I also need to pare back on some tools, but the tidying up so I c…, Just yesterday I was working out of my chisel tray and thinking what would be a better way. Will TB II create a strong bond even if there is a small gap that needs to be filled between the pieces? This will work on exterior applications, even those in highly moist locations. This is a great discussion. I wonder if there is any difference between the three in the visibility of the glue line on light-colored woods. it really shouldn’t matter since I’m fiberglassing the toons with epoxy resin and the whole skeltons will be painted with enamel paint. Yikes! Where were you when I wrote this post?!?! Thanks again for all your helpful advice, and for being willing to take the time to help me out! Thank you for your comments regarding the different glues. Find Titebond glues at Lowe's today. I allowed it to dry over night and it looked fine I left it alone until a full 24hrs has passed I really didn’t want to take any chances. Only 1 left in stock - order soon. So I while looking for a slow-setting, manageable glue Titebond’s Hide glue came up and this great article followed. (as eluded to but not “revealed” by poster), Titebond Extend is a product, not a technique. :) http://www.rockler.com/titebon.....?sid=AFN86, PAR said: “I use TiteBond III on a lot of stuff and have developed a few new ways to handle it, including how to increase it’s marginal working time.”. Just for S&G I glued two pieces of maple together using the dark glue, actually added a contrast that could come in handy some day. It is almost 8′ long so it takes a lot of time to glue. And if budget isn’t a factor and you don’t mind paying significantly more, you may as well just go with Titebond III and cover all the bases. These tend to blush and for some folks also can be reactive (allergic).West does offer some fine professional grade epoxies and specialty formulations, some of which can’t be beat. And hide glue is reverseable; i.e., if you need to do a repair you can loosen a hide-glue joint with water. Once you get a handle on epoxy, you’ll find using other adhesives difficult, even with the mixing and stuff associated with epoxy. Noticed the weirdest bluish staining starting to happen every once in a while wherever I had a glue drip that didn’t get wiped in time, but was sanded down instead. Gabe, I’ve been using TB III for perhaps two years of busy hobbyist work/play. What glue would you recommend for building laminated wood canoe paddles? the majority won out on the decision to purchase TB2. I have eaten a few though. West System.com and System Three,com have free download user guides. un-air-conditioned garage workshop. Should I be concerned? Or my favorite liquid protein glue—fish glue. The Jazz Guitar Chord Dictionary . I don’t use all that much so cost is not big issue, III is also mentioned as better for laminations and veneer work when you don’t need urea formaldehyde (sp? Required fields are marked *. I’d like to hear comments comparing TB original and TB I, I am a little confused by some of the statistics of Titebond II vs Titebond III. Strength-wise, there are some differences as well. I am using a 3/4″ X 4″ X 93″ plywood dado to join them. Either way, for $3.50 more you’re definitely buying a little peace of mind. I’ve been told for luthier work to just stick with the original. Well needless to say, we had another strong microbust in West Denver that it made the news. My latest post was directed to another poster whose post I can no longer see. So in addition to Titebond III I always keep a supply of CA on hand. A little bummed to lose all that strength (and just have it screwed together), since it needs to last a long time outdoors. From my experience, all of these PVA-type glues respond poorly to temperature extremes. I realize this was an old post-came across it following the trail of previous posts at the bottom of the broken tenon post. I would like the glue lines to be as invisible as possible. I started using III in December and now alot of my tables are cracking and splitting. Do NOT use Titebod III for paddles. Temperatures range from 30 deg C (90%humidity) to -30 deg C (15% humidity). Will the latex paint adhere to the glue coated surface? (I can’t comment on whether that reputation is valid, but the “rubbery” characteristic of TB 2 and TB 3 are consistent with that view.) Well if you believe the labeling, yes I do believe the TBII would have been sufficient. Now I need to figu…, Hi Paul, Your newer benches have not had end of the bench tills (drawers), is there a reason why? white spruce in in the mid to upper 20 pound per cubic foot range, which is light. Old Brown Glue appears opaque or cloudy when squeezed from the bottle, and getting it from the bottle is no easy task when the glue is at room temperature. I am curious though Marc, as a fellow resident in AZ do you find that wood movement is a real big issue since we are relatively dry climate most of the year, given the wood has a low moisture content during the build? I bought a very small bottle about a year ago for a very small outdoor repair. Titebond II Premium Wood Glue. Well I can’t remember when I bought this glue, it has been sitting on my shelf for some time now it could be a year old or 6 months old. But sealing isn’t an all or non proposition. it seems to be pretty strong and I’ve not had any issues with it. I mostly work with darker woods so deeper color can be a plus, but of course I’d never leave any glue residue, he, he, he. All of the listed “other” brands, are half the price (or more) of the major epoxy formulators, with very similar physical attributes. Titebond I is a superb wood glue. You can tailor epoxy to suit the physical parameters you need. I just bought heavy duty teak outdoor furniture. I wonder how old the glue is or how long you have had it since it opened the bottle. $19.99. I may not always live in Phoenix, so better safe than sorry. Titebond II Fluorescent Wood Glue. Karl How in the world did your table get a bullet hole in it? Because you mention Luthiers, why not Tightbond 50? Maybe even more important than shelf life is working temperature. Some of the best explanation on the topic that I have seen to date! So as the wood becomes more and more sealed, the glue becomes less and less effective. Maybe look for any others changes from when you successfully used TB II. (That hickory board I’m planning to use for one of the paddle shafts sure is heavy!) In California I had half a lifetime to clean up drips, in Utah I have no such luxury. I’m working with Western Red Cedar and I have lots of glue joints. Professional woodworkers use Titebond Genuine Hide Glue for its long assembly time, exceptional strength and unique crackling effect on wood. If you work with epoxy regularly, as I do, these are huge considerations, besides the price. I could tell that the joints where I applied the glue first were already pretty dry, pretty sticky, and the squeeze out was pretty minimal. My dad boiled it on the cookstove and glued anything and everything made from wooden components together. Now the walnut lumber in question was bought at an estate auction. Something like epoxy would work nicely. If you follow the directions Marc gives for gluing an end grain cutting board he says to wait a half hour and then scrape the squeeze out off, but I’ve never seen TB3 dry enough in a half hour (remember the demonic humidity) to scrape it off like that. But some luthiers seem to have good results with TB 1. My idea is to use a more waterproof fabric application, also using a waterproof fabric, eliminating many of the issues associated with this covering technique. Should I ever be compensated to write, I will make full disclosure. I recently found out what they mean about “shorter shelf life” for Gorilla glue. Now this might be off topic but how does carpenter yellow glue compare to the titebond one? Choose Titebond 16 fl. If you clamp them tight you’ll starve the joint. I wonder if it will ever truly harden up? A blow dryer, heat gun or the steam from an iron may be able to weaken the bond of Titebond Original and Titebond II glue. Titebond Liquid Hide Glue is the first hide glue to be offered in a liquid, ready-to-use form. This was NOT Titebond brand (it was probably purchased at Sears) but you might want to do some testing with the Titebond brand with stress under humid conditions. If you’re building indoor furniture correctly, you don’t need to “cover your bases.” Just as the Whisperer said, a proper joint/construction with Titebond I is incredibly strong. I’ve had the same issue with the epoxy hardening after being on the shelf but not the same issue with wood glue. what, in your opinion, would be the best glue to re-glue the staves? It’s not convenient all the time, but with judicious planning you will enjoy it. Maybe Titebond III doesn’t penetrate the wood fibers as well as Titebond II? Found a problem with the site? If the wood is sealed, that can’t happen. I think it would be worth differentiating Gorilla Wood glue vs the epoxy. Back when they came out with Titebond Type II, it was rated for use in structural work. Get it as soon as Fri, Jan 15. I’m using Titebond 111. Check out the PSI strength ratings below. Not a dumb question at all Jason. I couldn’t find a place for a question, so I’m posting my question here. One other question(s), since I’m also new to laminating procedures, etc… Hello Paul, I am about to perform a massive glue-up of a roubo workbench’s legs 1) to each other using mortise&tenoned low stretchers and 2) into the table top via the straight & sliding-dovetail duo – all at the same time. I currently have one bottle of each and wonder ever time I glue something which is better.. I’m a TB III user. I’m on the Tite Bond 3 train, doesn’t hurt to cover all your bases. If you wait until it’s gummy enough to scrape it does leave a nasty dark spot to contend with, but if you try and wipe it off with water right away and the board isn’t thick enough to resist swelling you risk warping the end grain before the glue dries. Want to stay up to date with Paul's blog? I DO want the wood (yellow cedar) to silver uniformly. I’m guessing you will definitely see the smeared glue on the surfaces. where I want to make sure a joint is particularly strong I would use one of the traditional glues and I would also only use the traditional glues on instruments. I used with Walnut and it works really well (very hidden glue line). All content on The Wood Whisperer is copyrighted, and may not be reprinted in full form without my written consent. There are degrees to which something can be sealed. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyanoacrylate, http://www.rockler.com/titebon.....?sid=AFN86, http://www.dap.com/product_det.....duct_id=43, http://www.jamestowndistributo.....;page=GRID. I can’t imagine there being a big difference that would effect cracking and splitting. And the only place I could find to post this question: anyone else have problems with tite bond 1 staining maple a weird blue color when used in the cold? In fact, I don’t use PVA’s at all on structural elements, mostly because of creep. Subscribe to Paul's YouTube to make sure you don't miss out on his latest videos! But my gut reaction is that it’s fine. But for laminating the thin stock and veneers that make up the bindings and purflings, which have to be steam- bent to shape, I use TB III. I think Marc already touched on this when he said he didn’t want to stock 3 types of glues, but as a hobbyist, if I stock 3 types, I’ll have 3 bottles of 2/3 full expired glue. Do I have a drying time issue or are the tolerances too tight between the dado and the cedar? Would Old Brown Glue be any dofferent? TBIII won because it is available at the local lumber yard but TBII extended is 75 miles down the coast. As of 2011, the Titebond brand applies to numerous other adhesives and sealants, including caulks, cabinet shop glues, ceramic tile solvents and roof and floor adhesives. Shop glues and a variety of glues & tapes products online at Lowes.com. Very good point Paul I should of thought about it before hand but I was too anxious to give it a whirl. My furniture was returned with all the joints loosened. It’s been well over 24hrs since glue up I did as the bottle instructed and applied a generous amount, I thought hey what’s the harm it will dry up and just break off not sure where I got that idea from but far from the truth. They market the products as good, better,and best, which seems a bit deceiving when you consider everything. Chair legs and frames can be dismantled this way too. Open time seemed to me to be about 1/2 an hour, plenty long enough for all assembly procedures and certainly an advantage in complex glue ups. Both are aliphatic resin emulsions. You can buy epoxy in a cartridge system, where you just squeeze the trigger and mixed goo comes out the end. FREE Shipping on orders over $25 shipped by Amazon. Details of the cookies we use and what you can do to switch them off are are in our Privacy Policy. So for those complex glue-ups, Titebond III would be a good choice. Titebond Liquid Hide Glue, 8-Ounces #5013 From the Manufacturer. Or maybe not, I might just use screws without glue to secure the top. Anyone else having experiences similar to Gabe? I normally use II and III. Titebond II will easily come off your fingers by rubbing them together, whereas original titebond will coat you fingers and even if you try to rub it off. I use TiteBond III on a lot of stuff and have developed a few new ways to handle it, including how to increase it’s marginal working time. Great thread, me I’ve got a question applying 5 mil copper sheet to wood, outdoor project, it’s a moongate so the object will you not be touched by anything other than the elements. Set your store to see local availability Add to Cart. I’m glad I was able to help! Well I’m over the moon what looked like a disaster actually turned out really well, the glue seems to have finally cured two days after it’s application I might add but lets blame it on humidity. There is only one joint that connects the neck to the main body on these traditional bowed instruments. I’ve read that the Titebond hide glue can’t be used for hammer veneering like is done with the hot hide glue. Should bind to just about anything. Epoxies sometimes stiffen with age in their containers. Yes my workshop is humid but that didn’t have any effect on the glued joints thank God. This is a function of the test process for the type 1 qualification. … I may end up changing that plan! Looking at Rockler’s current pricing on quarts, we have $8.59 for Titebond Original, $10.49 for Titebond II, and $13.99 for Titebond III. I repair a lot of furniture and Gorilla Glue, or any other polyurethane glue is not really glue at all, it’s a polyurethane foam that sticks to things well. :). Titebond Wood Glue Review. The idea is to replace more traditional fabric coverings on decks, with a more waterproof, yet reasonably flexible sheathing. So any type of decision requires cost-benefit analysis. With the glue on one surface, tradition says slide the board from left to right. Just bring the pieces together enough so they contact each other. We make splined picture frames, and sometimes I cheat the minimum working temperature up here in upstate ny. So it’s a true “it depends” sort of thing. While there are glues, adhesives and sealants designed for specific applications, many times more than one product will do the job. Once the post was in the concrete and it had cured, I put a bead of gray concrete caulking at the bottom of the post so that water cannot seep in. I had always used TB II without any problems. Introducing water-based adhesive is always problematic without total surface pressure as the veneers generally expand too and this causes the veneer to curl almost immediately. Or other suggestions on how to strengthen the joints? Titebond 8 oz. The image is impressed on my mind. The Wood Whisperer abides by word of mouth marketing standards and holds integrity in the highest regard. Titebond allows much longer working time and the titebond hide glue is supposed to give more working time. Hot from the pan, it first ran in like candle drips, curtaining and then culminating slowly into deep amber globs. Wood glue needs to be absorbed into the fibers in order for it to have the strongest bond. No messing with the dry granule, mixing with water and buying a glue pot. You just need a good quality marine grade. Titebond Liquid Hide Wood Glue lists cyanoguanidine (used in the manufacture of plastics and pharmaceuticals) and ammonium thiocyanate (used chiefly as a herbicide and in textile printing). TiteBond III does pass this test (just barely), but epoxy doesn’t. You are a real treasure for so many of us who have not had the access to real woodworking traditions as in your country. ... StewMac Ground Hide Glue. I don’t think so, but I don’t know from first-hand experience. Supposedly the II and III are not good for instrument building. This time it happens to be Titebond III. A real shame as I was pretty much exited about this glue. Interestingly enough, epoxy doesn’t pass the “type 1” WBP test that TiteBond III does, so from a mil spec view point, epoxy isn’t waterproof. This makes application easy end efficient. Its been a while since I played with carpenters glue, so I can’t say from specific experience. Hopefully there are some happy ending stories out there to cool my nerves :). I do find that applying the glue with a brush gives me a good control of the covered surfaces and I do like that the brush can simply be washed with hot water at the end of the day. My question to you Sir besides the above since I want to work with hide glue should I switch to making my own using a pot or will titebond LH be just as effective and equivalent in bonding strength as PVA white glue. But I have used CA glue to fill a small bullet hole in the surface of a black walnut table I built, and if you don’t know it is there you would be hard pressed to find it. Is this normal? TiteBond III is very water resistant, even passing the WBP type one test (again just barely). I have used all three past two years. But it would be nice to have actual numbers to know exactly how much strength is being sacrificed and if it’s enough to worry about. I work with several adhesives in yacht building, restoration and repair. 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