[–]5225225 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children). I would love to double check this, don't have i3 in front of me right now. For example, I wrote a custom function to "Toggle Desktop" (toggle minimise all windows) in 25 LOC. What is this awesome window manager? On my netbook, I rarely have more then 2 windows open, which is fine in i3. I've read about the different tiling window managers on the wiki, I've tried Awesome before, and I've seen several videos of i3 in use. Empty workspaces are removed. Pretty sure i3 doesn't (automatically) handle the alt-tab functionality. Tiling WM's are great on big screens because they really let you use all that space fully. For people who want the lowest cost to entry to getting a tiling window manager that's got sane tolerable defaults, then i3 is probably a better coice. A floating window is not a floating workspace. It is lightweight, highly configurable and easy to learn. i3 requires more keystrokes to get the layout I want when opening more then 2 windows. You will have to make your own choice. sudo apt-get install kde-full - Give me everything KDE related in the repository (NOTE: this will take a while, over 1. Very Unix philosophy friendly. I preferred i3 of the two. {edit}Bleh, you got a much better answer later in the comments. 2012-07-01 17:06:53 +0000. The function in the end was only a few lines of code, but took a lot of trial-and-error to get working. Would you recommend i3 or awesome? A dock is integrated and starts automatically to display the workspaces and a tiny program tray. Discord becomes laggy during long voice calls, Problems installing NVIDIA driver (surprisingly..) for RTX 3090, Secondary screen setup xrandr says configure crtc 1 failed, Cannot connect to hidden 2.4GHz network with iwctl, trouble with arch shutting down too slowly and the Slice=-.slice command. I feel that if you really want that mechanism of managing windows you could get widgets working in i3 which are independents from wm. Could you enlighten me a little bit on what you mean by Dynamic vs Explicit? What are the differences between i3 and awesome? customize awesome wm December 2, 2020 By Even though itâ s based on the good-old GNOME 2, the MATE team has improved the desktop environment on a â ¦ Some window managers tile, some stack, and some float. I'm using #! The use of Lua just means you can be much more pickier about behavior. I’ve been using i3wm for the longest time, and I thought I finally found my call. You then have the ability to swap witch is the main window. So, if I just keep creating windows, I may just have a bunch of really thin vertical splits (or, in my WM of choice, a binary partitioned spiral). i3-gaps What is i3-gaps? One weird as fuck thing I just found out is that you can make entire containers floating. v-split, h-split. I actually really like tiling WMs on my netbook because they give you a lot of fullscreen options which is mostly what I want on a 10 inch screen. Might need a little tweaking to get it working how you expect, though. A lot of guys dont like because the have to install this 700 mb Haskell Compiler but of the config is running you dont it this one anymore. Or install it to your hard drive. It is designed to be simple and efficient. That said, some Linux distributions may name it differently in their package management systems, so it’s always good to do a search first. For what it's worth, you can easily configure Awesome to do the 'x workspaces to be shared between all monitors', like i3, gnome, and unity. I still like to have the windows titles still visible. If you are thinking about switching to i3, hopefully this can help you out. If you want to try it out, go look through the screenshot+config forum posts or wikis and try some stuff out. Anyone with karma >100 is welcome to improve it. Also, Lua is in fact a Turing complete language. The tabbed and stacked container layouts are also very nice. I prefer Awesome's default behavior in that area and it sounds like you do to, but I wanted to chip in for the sake of completeness. i3’s advantage is that it is very fast, customable and can be used from the keyboard. Navigating between windows and tags in Awesome is easy, and it's also pretty easy to set up automatic tag management (add terminals to tag 2, firefox to 3, music player to 9 etc). i3 is a simple window manager with tiling, floating and other window sorting features. i3. A programming language is an artificial language designed to communicate instructions to a machine, particularly a computer. The advantage is that it (Xmonad) is very fast and runs very light. Awesome will automatically position and size windows to fit whatever layout is selected - this is dynamic behaviour. I can see the appeal, configuration is much better/easier. It is neither bloated nor fancy. I must say that the I have negligible experience with xmonad and the only dealing with it's config is a rather quick glance at a template from the xmonad wiki, but from that the two seem comparable. I use a manual tiler because I find that dynamic ones often don't have the layouts that I use (because I use weird layouts.) Learn how to create a bootable USB-Stick and use a virtual machine, setup a live system and install Manjaro.Finally check out our Manual and you are done, Enjoy.. YOU are awesome, Please consider donating and help guarantee the future of this project. If you are looking for older images check the Awesome archive. Navigating and manipulating windows was a bit awkward at first, but eventually I found that i3 makes it much easier to manipulate layouts just like I wanted in just a few keystrokes. I use trayer and dzen2. [–]dhruvfire 6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (5 children). 2012-07-01 14:47:14 +0000, updated I had a lot of trouble working out clearly what each module does, because the descriptions seemed really vague. i3 exists virtually everywhere, on every Linux distribution. 7, its popular Linux desktop environment. The extra room can make a big difference on a small screen. Awesome, like most window managers, is targeted at advanced users. in your i3 config to do it as a keybinding. ), [–]stubborn_d0nkey 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child). The answer is that both have a learning curve, both are popular (at least for tiling wms), and both are very different. i3 has this as a default behavior. I created a poll on YouTube for you, the viewer, to help me decide on my next window manager to use on my main production machine. Another really major difference between i3 and awesome is the way they handle multi-monitor setups. Programming languages can be used to create programs that control the behavior of a machine and/or to express algorithms. Also being a scripting language does not automatically make it "easier to read and learn...", [–]Chingzilla 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (5 children). [–]5225225 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (2 children). Just seen another note about a distro featuring such a window manager: Awesome has been around for a few years now, but may be gaining some visibility now that Sabayon Linux has added an awesome edition.Guest author Koen Vervloesem has been using awesome for a number of years, and subscribers can click below for his look at the window manager from this week's edition. What have I changed, especially now that I am using the ErgoDox EZ keyboard. I3 is flexible and can be customized in several ways to improve the visual experience. Until then with Xinerama (afaik) i3status on both displays had to be the same (miirror). Starting gnome from cli: "fusermount3: failed to access mountpoint /run/user/1000/gvfs: Permission denied", Sound output devices gone after sleep mode. i3 is arguably the most popular tiling window manager available, and notable for using a single, completely self-contained configuration file. Remember, I am advocating for Awesome, just be realistic the barrier of entry. [–]Azd325 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child). using the keyboard needs some adaption at first but is faster than using the mouse after a few sessions. If i3 implements these behaviors I would likely switch. You can freely (and really easily) customise the windows layout exactly how you want it. If you want it to just be easy to use, then go with i3. There’s not a Linux distribution out there that doesn’t have it in the package repositories. The, make even more sense on small screens for exactly the same reason. Besides the config part I was a happy awesome user till I bought a 21:9 monitor and the fixed awesome layouts just wouldn't cut it. And that's side to side, verticle space is even worse. © 2020 reddit inc. All rights reserved. i3 exposes a simple IPC API and you can easily use any programming you wish to extend it. [–]hemite 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (2 children). I’ve decided to reinstall the GNU/Linux system on my old X220 ThinkPad and in 2018 finally move on from UbuntuStudio 14.04 (Trusty). However, you can create an infinite amount of workspaces without having to define them, you just switch to them and i3 will create it if it doesn't exist. Compare against other cars. If you want to do a lot of customization, the learning curve of using haskell can become daunting (even though there are a lot of examples that you can just copy pasta together for your own). Installing i3 isn’t enough. These are based on a 2 axis navigation structure, or the container object's structure. I'm still not really sure what you mean. This edition is supported by the Manjaro ARM team and comes with i3 WM/desktop. Without going into all the details, I played around with all of them and came up with this conclusion: 1. An added bonus is that the i3 status bar will not update when hidden, saving cpu cycles (admittedly negligible). i3 是最受欢迎的平铺窗口管理器之一。与大多数其他此类 WM 一样，i3 专注于低资源消耗和用户可定制性。 您可以参考 Magazine 上的这篇文章了解 i3 安装细节以及如何配置它。 sway. rofi is a popular dmenu replacement and more that can list desktop entries. On my desktop, I feel that the way the 9 tags are split between all of your monitors is a bit awkward to live with 24/7. I haven't any problems with it at all. 2012-07-08 20:22:59 +0000. REDDIT and the ALIEN Logo are registered trademarks of reddit inc. π Rendered by PID 14869 on r2-app-0ad6ed744a4fc8f93 at 2020-12-14 12:46:02.250638+00:00 running 85e58d4 country code: US. [–]TheGuyWithFace[S] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (11 children). Con. i3 sounded like a nice idea at first, but there were a lot of aspects of my Gnome desktop that I didn't think I could do without. Try Manjaro without modifying your current operating system. Having explicit tiling sounds good, but I rarely have any more need then one fully vertical window with a 2nd column of secondary windows. What makes it better than other tiling window managers? In the process of also trying out new Lubuntu (which I didn’t like for some quite aesthetic reason and retried with Xubuntu – much better!) Now, to you that may not seem like much, but to me that's a lot of real-estate. All content here is read-only. [–]Chingzilla 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children). I guess what constitutes a programming language can be a little pedantic, I take the stance on wikipedia. Keep that in mind. [–]5225225 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children), Haven't tried awesome, but I can say that i3 has a very clean config. AwesomeWM sports superior flexibility and in my experience a lower learning threshold, i3 has superior documentation and very easy configuration. Maintainer: dbaio@FreeBSD.org Port Added: 2007-09-27 23:55:22 Last Update: 2020-08-22 23:29:17 SVN Revision: 545788 People watching this port, also watch: python27, curl, otrs, i3, opendkim License: GPLv2+ [–]haywire 7 points8 points9 points 6 years ago (1 child). Every pixel is important on a netboot :). xbacklight is a utility to set our laptop’s screen brightness. Generally, the userbase of Arch are power-users; these are the people that prefer powerful, extensible programs like Emacs/Vim over user-friendly ones like Kate or Genie. How to enable sound streaming in discord? # Start iceweasel on workspace 3, then switch back to workspace 1 # (Being a command-line utility, i3-msg does not support startup notifications, # hence the exec --no-startup-id.) Sway allows you to arrange your application windows logically, rather than spatially. Really lightweight, fast, easy to configure, very good support for dualscreen setup (the best I think). All in all this was a lot of time spent learning Lua and Awesome's structure to implement this. Not ideal, but I find it quick to reassign windows quickly to other work spaces, [–]slycurgus 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago* (2 children), the default binds for these are j/k/l/; (navigate containers) and Shift+(j/k/l/;) for move containers. I created a layout detection function that returned a list of layouts based on the ratio of the monitor resolution (portrait vs. landscape). awesome is a highly configurable, next generation framework window manager for X. So, I'm interested in trying out a tiling window manager for my laptop. I haven't any problems with it at all. In this article, we’ll be going over the i3 window manager. But from the last few posts related to awesome wm, I feel like awesome wm gives far more customisation options and is better than i3. The i3 is an absolute riot to drive, and reminds me a lot of the VW GTi in terms of acceleration and general fun-factor. In i3, the only option seemed to only have them, or not. People customize their Linux or Unix desktop with themes, wallpapers, killer configuration and more. Not as flexible as Awesome, but it provides all the functionality I personally need right now right out of the box. awesome. How would you compare i3 to awesome, awesome to i3, etc.? [–]kingpatzer 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children). That's for a floating window, you can't set the whole workspace floating. The Overflow Blog The Overflow #45: What we call CI/CD is actually only CI. Basicly, Lua has (by design) small set of features and simple syntax, but it doesn't mean Lua is limited in some way. The BMW i3 and i3S are identical on the inside, which is a bit disappointing. After two weeks on AwesomeWM, how a I getting along with it? i really like awesome's lua usage. Pick one and play with it. [–]NewW0rld -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (0 children). dmenu is a utility to launch our apps in the i3 desktop. [–]rosshadden 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children). i3-gaps is a fork of i3wm, a tiling window manager for X11.It is kept up to date with upstream, adding a few additional features such as gaps between windows (see below for a … I haven't yet become dissatisfied enough with i3's habit of cramming everything into vertical strips to try and change it... [–]Chingzilla 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago* (1 child). (pre-)automated layouts (I have two scripts: one for 'large screen' mode and one for 'laptop screen' mode). Though in my case I 'got tiling' only after I decided to give it a full-blown go on my main machine (as opposed to switching for an hour and 'playing with it' - I don't think that will work; too much of a paradigm shift). ... awesome. As I said upthread -- if you like to program your environment to be exactly like you want, then pick a programmable tiling WM like XMonad or QTile. [–]lutzee_ 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children). Yes. Another really major difference between i3 and awesome is the way they handle multi-monitor setups. In Awesome, I love just cycling thought all windows in a clockwise fashion using 'j' and 'k', vs. explicitly going up/down left/right. As a developer, I value these features, as I can use the extra capacity to power my favorite development tools or test stuff locally using containers or virtual machines. None. [+]NewW0rld comment score below threshold-11 points-10 points-9 points 6 years ago (10 children). Does it make sense to use tiling WM on a netbook? Awesome's Status bar meets my needs though. A friend of mine recommended it as a good first tiling WM, and it was easy to get started with. For those who have used Tiling window managers longer than I have, what do you think of them? Haven't found a way to do that in i3. Though there is still some work to be done in this area. i3 is a tiling window manager designed for X11, inspired by wmii and written in C. It supports tiling, stacking, and tabbing layouts, which it handles dynamically. That said, this may be of interest to you - both for the information that i3 doesn't intend to implement alt-tab due to unpredictable movement, and for the python/bash solution that someone came up with for it. [+]NewW0rld comment score below threshold-7 points-6 points-5 points 6 years ago (4 children). In Awesome, the default is to have all window titles listed in series, similar to many taskmanager bars. i tired dwm and bspwm first and found them lacking in a few areas. Asked: If you try i3, try enabling 'hide mode' for the i3 status bar with Mod1 as the show modifier. If you change the number of monitors, Awesome places all windows from disconnected monitors on the 1st desktop on the primary monitor. I tend to restart when moving my laptop, so I am starting with a clean session. Enter i3. I'm using xmobar and trayer as a status bar. Awesome gives each monitor an independant set of tags while i3 keeps a total of 9 workspaces to be shared between all monitors. I primary use Awesome. As I said, to each's own, glade we have chooses. … i3 also allows for things like moving a tag from one screen to the next. Because installing a Linux distro is out of the scope of this guide, i'm not going to go over that..PLUS there is already plenty of documentation out there. awesome is a highly configurable, next generation framework window manager … Alternatively, the package j4-dmenu-desktop-git AUR can be used. How do you 'switch to' a workspace other than 1-10? It works with your existing i3 configuration and supports most of i3's features, plus a few extras. I have long outstanding issues with my Awesome config, but overall behavior better matches my work flow. i gave it a shot for about 2 weeks last month and didnt really care for it. Press Meta+A a bunch of times (aka select parent) and then hit Meta shift space. It has the advantage of compatibility with an existing i3 configuration, so you can use it to replace i3 and use Wayland as the display protocol. I’ve found that on a laptop that I connect and disconnect to external monitors freely, i3 is more dynamic and allows me to preserve my tiling layouts as I move around. Some of the issues against stuff like i3 and awesome are the lack of built in status bar or tray. If you are feeling adventurous and want to install additional DEs or WMs you can reference these guides: Install Desktop Environments and Window Managers; Choose from a wide selection available in our repositories! sway 是一个平铺 Wayland 合成器。 Cough cough, /r/bspwm is a great tiling WM for X that has great features, a very sane config, and runs fantastically. Yes the learning curve of extensible programs is steeper, and their docs go deeper, but this is what power-users prefer. Configuration is achieved via plain text file and extending i3 is possible using its Unix domain socket and JSON based IPC interface from many programming languages.. Like wmii, i3 uses a control system very similar to that of vi. awesome user over here. I'm an i3 wm user for about 2 months, I think. [–]slycurgus 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children), I just prefer the more 'alt-tab' like navigation of cycling though all windows on that desktop. it adds the ability of creating something totally custom very simply. The "problem" with XMonad is that many of the functions that i3 has built for you don't exist. What are the main differences between the user interfaces of awesome and i3? I haven't seen any implementation of stacking, tabbing, containers and arbitrary splits for awesome and I doubt you could do it without a lot of work on the C code, while i3 comes with it out of the box. The awesomewm people also call awesome a window manager framework. I'd say that it's more complicated to customize the way you want if you don't know Haskell, but it's also really powerful if you do know Haskell. I used xmonad on a crappy work desktop that's memory was almost entirely dedicated to crappy tomcat stuff running on it, but i3 probably can do much the same. (I don't know lua, and I have no major problem with learning something new, but in the half a month that I used awesome, I never really got it setup the way I wanted it. The Best Desktop Environments For Linux (We Tested Them So That You Don’t Have To) Last updated October 23, 2020 By Ankush Das 268 Comments awesome is a free and open-source next-generation tiling manager for X built to be fast … The one I can't figure out is Awesome. [–]NewW0rld -2 points-1 points0 points 6 years ago (1 child), [–]btreecat 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children), How does that exempt it from being a programming language? [–]Sphaerophoria 13 points14 points15 points 6 years ago (3 children). Same for moving windows using the keyboard. [–]kingpatzer 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children). use the following search parameters to narrow your results: and join one of thousands of communities. Fvwm is a virtual window manager for the X windows system. i3-wm contains i3-dmenu-desktop, a Perl wrapper for dmenu which uses desktop entries to create a list of all installed applications. It is kept up to date with upstream, adding a few additional features such as gaps between windows (see below for a complete list). The fact it can be setup quickly without patching+recompiling (dwm) or learning a new language, API, 3nd party libraries is very appealing. Дистрибутив Arch, если это имеет значение. When comparing awesome vs i3, the Slant community recommends i3 for most people. [–]adhochawk 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (2 children). Yes, though admittedly few people go to that length and where most people stop with both Awesome and XMonad are about at the same level of simply assigning a few key strokes and adding some widget to a bar. I run xmonad over 8 month and I love it. [–]btreecat 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children). This was an awesome sight as the CPU still had plently of head room. on my netbook. I've since converted to i3 on my netbook as well. Honestly, i3wm is probably fast and light enough for most people. Using the multi-platform toolkit Qt, the flexible extensions of KDE Frameworks plus the power of Plasma Shell, Plasma Mobile is built with technology which feels equally at home on the desktop and mobile. Port details: awesome Highly configurable, next generation framework window manager 4.3_1,1 x11-wm =5 4.3_1,1 Version of this port present on the latest quarterly branch. [–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children). [–]LazinCajun 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (1 child). [–]ZekeSulastin 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children). It's meant to have clean, readable code, handle multimonitor in a good way, and not impose stupid limits on SLOC (I don't think awesome does, but DWM has a limit), [–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child). i tired awesome (not knowing lua) and fell in love. E.g. Welp. For me the biggest reason I switched to i3 from awesome was sane defaults. It was originally a feeble fork of TWM by Robert Nation in 1993 (fvwm history), and has evolved into the fantastic, fabulous, famous, flexible, and so on, window manager we have today.Fvwm is ICCCM-compliant and highly configurable. [–]Chingzilla 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children), This is a very good point. [–]jdost 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children). Haven't found a way to do that in i3. I already had applied this, what I said still holds true. I was hoping for maybe an M Sport-style steering wheel, with possibly three-spokes. ±å…¥ç”¨è¿‡ï¼Œè¯´ä¸€ä¸‹ dwm 以及它的 forks。dwm 的设计思想是 stacking，新创建的窗口放到栈顶，而越… [–]aeqwa 7 points8 points9 points 6 years ago (3 children). sway is a tiling Wayland compositor. ... One of the benefits of Qtile being in Python is you can write scripts to control the WM.

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